and barack obama, he's actually saying, youanow what? i don't think that th y equation works and is automatic. and actually, in saying that, the plutocrats are t not wrong detect there a very powerful ideological challenge. >> if the plutocrats ep on winning, if they manage to avoid tax reform, if they keep low regulation, if they get a president who is sympathetic to them, or even enables them, what's ahead for us? >> well, i mean, i fear that what's ahead is just the continuous worsening of the situation. you know, what we've seen in our lifetime, even since w ve come back from russia, isve this des nation of the middle class in america. if we continue on this path what we'll end up with is, you know, is russia or some oer third world country where, again, you have this handful of people who are -- who are protected.of and who have expanding wealth, and then there's just this sort of massive population of what ody else, and that's i worry about. >> i would like to treally iss a clarion call to progressives. because i think this sort of